Keyboard auto-repeat defaults when using 'xwin -query <host>'

[Chris Green]

I have a odd problem with the keyboard auto-repeat setup.

I have two verions of cygwin/xfree installed on two different win2k
computers and the problem is the same on both. One has the latest
cygwin/xfree (just downloaded) and the other has a version from a
few months ago.

I have searched through the mailing list archive and see that a
similar problem has been reported before but it isn't exactly the same
and I don't see how to fix the problem anyway.

I am connecting from both these win2k systems uisng 'xwin -query
<server>' to a linux Slackware 9.1 system on my local (home) network.
I have also got another X server available to me, X-Win32 but I'd
prefer to use cygwin as it's free and otherwise I keep having to pay
for upgrades to X-Win32.

The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-

auto repeat: on key click persent: 0 LED mask: 0000000000
auto repeat delay: 100 repeat rate: 10
....

That auto repeat delay is much too short.



On the other hand when I connect using X-Win32 I get:-

auto repeat: on key click persent: 0 LED mask: 0000000000
....

with no 'auto repeat delay' value at all, i.e. X-Win32 doesn't seem to
have attempted to set the auto repeat delay or repeat rate at all and
thus I'm left with the existing keyboard settings which are fine.


It would appear that cygwin/xfree *is* setting the auto repeat delay
and speed whereas X-Win32 isn't. If it is setting these where are the
default values? If it isn't then what is going on?

I know I can fix it by using 'xset' but this seems a bit of a bodge,
I'd rather do it properly.

[Harold L Hunt II]

Chris,

Post by Chris Green
The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-
auto repeat: on key click persent: 0 LED mask: 0000000000
auto repeat delay: 100 repeat rate: 10
....
That auto repeat delay is much too short.

When running locally, I get:

Keyboard Control:
auto repeat: on key click percent: 0 LED mask: 00000000
auto repeat delay: 500 repeat rate: 31
auto repeating keys: 00ffffffdffffbbf
fadfffffffdffdff
ffffffffffffffff
ffffffffffffffff
bell percent: 50 bell pitch: 400 bell duration: 100

When logged into a remote machine via -query I get exactly the same
values. I do not have an XF86Config file, and I am not passing any of
the following command-line parameters to XWin.exe:

======================================================================
The X Keyboard Extension adds the following arguments:
-kb disable the X Keyboard Extension
+kb enable the X Keyboard Extension
[+-]accessx [ timeout [ timeout_mask [ feedback [ options_mask] ] ] ]
enable/disable accessx key sequences
-ar1 set XKB autorepeat delay
-ar2 set XKB autorepeat interval

[...]

-xf86config
Specify a configuration file.
======================================================================

My /tmp/XWin.log file has the following:

======================================================================
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409)
(EE) No primary keyboard configured
(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)"
Options = "(null)"
======================================================================

Could you please confirm that you are not passing any additional args to
XWin.exe, then send in your XWin.log files from both a local session and
from a session when you use -query to connect to a remote machine? That
should help us to investigate the problem.

Harold

[Chris Green]

Post by Harold L Hunt II
Chris,

Post by Chris Green
The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-
auto repeat: on key click persent: 0 LED mask: 0000000000
auto repeat delay: 100 repeat rate: 10
....
That auto repeat delay is much too short.

Thanks for the response and for treating me gently, I'm just feeling
my way in cygwin/X although I have been using Unix/Linux for many
years (since the early 1980s in fact).

Post by Harold L Hunt II
auto repeat: on key click percent: 0 LED mask: 00000000
auto repeat delay: 500 repeat rate: 31
auto repeating keys: 00ffffffdffffbbf
fadfffffffdffdff
ffffffffffffffff
ffffffffffffffff
bell percent: 50 bell pitch: 400 bell duration: 100

Just about exactly what I get except for the auto repeat delay values
which I reported above.

Post by Harold L Hunt II
When logged into a remote machine via -query I get exactly the same
values. I do not have an XF86Config file, and I am not passing any of
======================================================================
-kb disable the X Keyboard Extension
+kb enable the X Keyboard Extension
[+-]accessx [ timeout [ timeout_mask [ feedback [ options_mask] ] ] ]
enable/disable accessx key sequences
-ar1 set XKB autorepeat delay
-ar2 set XKB autorepeat interval
[...]
-xf86config
Specify a configuration file.
======================================================================

I'm running using a copy of startxwin.bat with the XWIn start line set
to "start XWin -query server". I have no XF86Config either.

Post by Harold L Hunt II
======================================================================
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409)
(EE) No primary keyboard configured
(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)"
Options = "(null)"
======================================================================
Could you please confirm that you are not passing any additional args to
XWin.exe, then send in your XWin.log files from both a local session and
from a session when you use -query to connect to a remote machine? That
should help us to investigate the problem.

The remote XWin.log file is:-

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1600 h 1200
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
InitOutput - Error reading config file
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1600 h: 1200
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1600 h: 1200
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 33 0 1200 1600
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 33 0 1200 1600
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1594 h 1137 r 1594 l 0 b 1137 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 3188
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 3188
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1594
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 bpp 16
winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
winScreenInit - returning
InitOutput - Returning.
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000809" (00000809)
(--) Using preset keyboard for "English (United Kingdom)" (809), type "4"
(EE) No primary keyboard configured
(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc105" Layout = "gb" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)"
winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 797 568
winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted
winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned


The local XWin.log file is identical apart from the following extra line:-

_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root

(a local X session has the same problems as a remote one)

I will see what logging (if any) that my commercial XWin-32 does and if
there's anything useful I'll report that too.

[Alexander Gottwald]

Post by Chris Green
I have a odd problem with the keyboard auto-repeat setup.
I have two verions of cygwin/xfree installed on two different win2k
computers and the problem is the same on both. One has the latest
cygwin/xfree (just downloaded) and the other has a version from a
few months ago.
I have searched through the mailing list archive and see that a
similar problem has been reported before but it isn't exactly the same
and I don't see how to fix the problem anyway.
I am connecting from both these win2k systems uisng 'xwin -query
<server>' to a linux Slackware 9.1 system on my local (home) network.
I have also got another X server available to me, X-Win32 but I'd
prefer to use cygwin as it's free and otherwise I keep having to pay
for upgrades to X-Win32.
The problem is that when I connect using cygwin/xfree the auto-repeat
is set to silly values, if I do an 'xset -q' I get:-
auto repeat: on key click persent: 0 LED mask: 0000000000
auto repeat delay: 100 repeat rate: 10
....
That auto repeat delay is much too short.

XWin tries to set the repeat rate to something similar to the windows
repeat rate. This is noted in the configfile.

Maybe the session scripts of the linux host set the repeat rate to a bogus
value.

You can verify this by starting xwin without the query paramter and run
"DISPLAY=:0.0 xset -q" from windows. This should print the default setting.

bye
ago

NP: grauzone.03-12-14

[Chris Green]

Post by Alexander Gottwald

Post by Chris Green
auto repeat delay: 100 repeat rate: 10
....
That auto repeat delay is much too short.

XWin tries to set the repeat rate to something similar to the windows
repeat rate. This is noted in the configfile.
Maybe the session scripts of the linux host set the repeat rate to a bogus
value.

But the problem only occurs when I connect to the remote system using
cygwin's xwin, when I use my commercial X-Win32 X server I get the
default keyboard set-up that I expect.

Post by Alexander Gottwald
You can verify this by starting xwin without the query paramter and run
"DISPLAY=:0.0 xset -q" from windows. This should print the default setting.

No. locally I appear to get the same problem too.