Rootless and multiwindow

[Anton Vaaranmaa]

Hello,

Judging by this screenshot <URL:
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got the impression that nowadays one can run X-applications in Cygwin XFree
without a window manager (like Twm, WindowMaker), and that X-apps sort of
blend in in the MS-Windows GUI like they were native Win32 apps.

In the screenshot those WinXP window decorations and the fact that those
x-apps are present in the windows taskbar suggest they are managed by Windows
XP, but when I tried the latest stable Cygwin-XFree myself I had to use a
standard *nix window manager or else no frame and wm buttons etc would be
present and windows could not be moved like they are supposed to.

I'm confused: what* is* it actually that I'm seeing? Just some WinXP theme for
some standard *nix wm or are those apps *really* managed by MS-Windows? If
they are, then what is the magic thing I have to do in order to enable this?
Now I have used "-rootless" and "-multiwindow'' as arguments for Xwin in my
startxwin.bat script.

[Anton Vaaranmaa]

If they are, then what is the magic thing I have to do in order to enable
this? Now I have used "-rootless" and "-multiwindow'' as arguments for Xwin
in my startxwin.bat script.

Ok, I have it working now :) Only bad thing is that this a little flaky: CPU
usage got quite heavy (30-90%).

[Harold L Hunt II]

You remembered to stop running your other window manager right?

Harold

Post by Anton Vaaranmaa

If they are, then what is the magic thing I have to do in order to enable
this? Now I have used "-rootless" and "-multiwindow'' as arguments for Xwin
in my startxwin.bat script.

Ok, I have it working now :) Only bad thing is that this a little flaky: CPU
usage got quite heavy (30-90%).

[Anton Vaaranmaa]

Post by Harold L Hunt II
You remembered to stop running your other window manager right?

Yes, I commented out "wmaker", but still cpu usage is at a 30-100% level all
the time. With a "real" window manager the cpu usage is normal.

One funny thing I noticed when I ran kmail (through an ssh session to my Red
Hat Linux laptop) is that I can't make selected text stay selected if I
release mouse button 1.

But there has been a lot of improvements to Cygwin-XFree since I last time
tried it (6 months ago or so). It feels much faster now although I am using a
slower box (400Mhz PII) than the one I have at work (900Mhz Celeron, which
has the old XFree on it). Then the rootless mode is a feature that has long
been on the wishlist.

[Harold L Hunt II]

Anton,

You have to use a window manager. You can use the internal window
manager by passing the -multiwindow flag to XWin.exe

Harold

Post by Anton Vaaranmaa
Hello,
http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/screenshots/cygwin-xfree86-multiwindow.png > I
got the impression that nowadays one can run X-applications in Cygwin XFree
without a window manager (like Twm, WindowMaker), and that X-apps sort of
blend in in the MS-Windows GUI like they were native Win32 apps.
In the screenshot those WinXP window decorations and the fact that those
x-apps are present in the windows taskbar suggest they are managed by Windows
XP, but when I tried the latest stable Cygwin-XFree myself I had to use a
standard *nix window manager or else no frame and wm buttons etc would be
present and windows could not be moved like they are supposed to.
I'm confused: what* is* it actually that I'm seeing? Just some WinXP theme for
some standard *nix wm or are those apps *really* managed by MS-Windows? If
they are, then what is the magic thing I have to do in order to enable this?
Now I have used "-rootless" and "-multiwindow'' as arguments for Xwin in my
startxwin.bat script.